I saw the two lesbians. I was a bit nausiated when I realized they are calling so much attention to themselves now because the she-he-mother has a book in the works.
And they were trying to act like they were so worried about their privacy? Barf.
I was disappointed Oprah fell for that one. Seemed a bit Jerry Springer to me.
So if I take some testosterone and have a mastectomy, then have a baby... I can go on Oprah?
I'd rather go on the Oprah's Favorite Things episode.
Good question So Tired. Of all the blunt questions Oprah asked, I'm surprised that one didn't come up. I was also wondering while watching the show about how s/he legally became a man. Oprah said that the couple is legally married because s/he had legally become a man. What exactly is the process for doing that? Do you have to go before a judge and whip out your new penis for inspection? I'd really like to know.
I mean how WEIRD. They seemed a little off. He ?she seemed like a kept woman! And of course he/she is a woman having a baby, thank god she kept the good parts!
I totally agree and my girl Oprah got low low low when she did all those promos for the show.
She should have said "Woman, now living as a man, who took a bunch of testosterone and now has some facial hair and a really big clitoris she uses to have sex with her lesbian lover got inseminated and will have baby soon"
That said more power to that couple. They seem like they are in love, happy and she has to girls from a previous marriage who seem really well adjusted and have really great hair.
It just seems sad that they wanted to be in control of their story and Oprah got all "People Magazine" on their ass.
I didn't see it...but I was wondering....when did Oprah's show turn into the Jerry Springer show?? Sounds like a weird idea for a guest, if you ask me.
A friend of mine and I were talking about this today. If they were lesbians to start out with, why would one of them want to become a man? If you're a lesbian wouldn't you want to be with another woman, not a man? Why couldn't the one left as the woman carry the baby? Seems to me that this is a publicity stunt.
ITA - they're trying to make this sound like it's a revolutionary scientific advance that's going to allow all men to start carrying children. Sorry, only the "men" with vaginas and uteruses (uteri?) are able to get pregnant and carry a child. This is one of the dumber "news" stories I've heard in a looooong time.
First, I agree on Oprah seeming to make this a pretty sensational show. I didn't see it because I haven;t been able to stomach the Oprah show for a couple of years now.
Now, Tara et al. who are unable to understand why a 'lesbian' would want to become a man. It isn't about who these people want to have sex with...it is about who they feel that they ARE. Transgendered people feel that their physical sexual development does not match with the person they really feel that they are. I am have had long and honest conversations with a number of gay and lesbian friends about their gender identity. Most are thrilled to be male or female and love their girl or boy bits. But, I have a lesbian friend who claims that for as long as she can remember she has felt that she is a boy...as a child she dressed as a boy, she was distressed not to have a penis, distressed at her development of breasts...she has honestly thought for her entire life that somehow before her birth that her sex organs got screwed up. Nature screws us up all the time! Some of us have malformed hearts, kidneys, brains, feet. Why is it so difficult for so many people to accept that maybe, possibly our gender could be missassigned before our birth? These people are not freaks looking for publicity, they are people who love each other for who they are at their very being...and are brave and wise enough to say it, out loud. It is a beautiful testament to love and courage that they are willing to have a family and hopefully create a dialog and understanding that will allow others to find the courage to embrace who they are. Kudos to them.
I agree with almost everything you wrote Ms. Sensible, except it doesn't seem to relate to this particular case.
He said that he hadn't felt like that his whole life, he began to feel like a man in his 20s and he was formerly involved in a Lesbian relationship with his now-wife.
I'm not at all questioning someone's decision to change genders, I absolutely believe some people are born in the wrong bodies.
What's being questioned is that it is interesting that her partner, who is a Lesbian and always has been, now wants to live with a man and that they choose to advertise this pregnancy (and I call it advertising because I *promise* you there will be profit, if there hasn't been already) as something completely miraculous...when really it's someone who has female reproductive organs and is able to bear children who chooses to take the hormones of, dress and act like a man.
There's just nothing this miraculous about a woman having a baby, even if it's a transgender person who is only technically female.
I wish them nothing but happiness, I just want them off the news.
Me no loves the idea that people should accept that they ought to act like a girl and shut up because they were born with a vagina.
Me loves Ashley's opinion on Oprah and circuses and such.
Me no love the Taras and felt an irresistible urge to give her a sermon on tolerance and acceptance. Not that the Taras aren't lovely people, perhaps she just hasn't had the opportunity to discuss this with a real live lovely trans gendered friend.
To clarify once again. Me loves Ashley and me loves my soapbox.
Me might even love the Taras if I met them and I bet the Taras would love my friend too!
Me no love media. Media sucks and it is so nice to be able to say so...
Joined this conversation late in the game, but I am with you all the way on this one, girl! You got the parts to have a baby, you are a chick. period. Doesn't matter if you can grow a beard. Heck, at times, I can grow a beard (sparse, but there are hairs there). I do not think that makes me a man.
sorry, but if i decided i was a cat, the medical community would send me for psychiatric evaluation and help, not give me whiskers and a tail. but i can decide i am a man and they'll offer me a dick? yeah, that's fucked up.
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DH and I watched the show last night and I 110% totally agree with you. He's a she, and that's that.
Did you see the "before" photo? Hot chick in a prior life.
I saw HER and I agree.
amen, sista.
Thanks! I couldn't agree more!
Actually your last line.... at first I was thinking ha, ha no pun intended right.....
Then I'm thinking, was he/she still having a period????
Obviously I have not watched it yet. I have it Tivo'd though.
I saw the two lesbians. I was a bit nausiated when I realized they are calling so much attention to themselves now because the she-he-mother has a book in the works.
And they were trying to act like they were so worried about their privacy? Barf.
I was disappointed Oprah fell for that one. Seemed a bit Jerry Springer to me.
So if I take some testosterone and have a mastectomy, then have a baby... I can go on Oprah?
I'd rather go on the Oprah's Favorite Things episode.
I wasn't sure if it was oprah or an oprah look alike masquerading on the jerry springer show.
Good question So Tired. Of all the blunt questions Oprah asked, I'm surprised that one didn't come up.
I was also wondering while watching the show about how s/he legally became a man. Oprah said that the couple is legally married because s/he had legally become a man. What exactly is the process for doing that? Do you have to go before a judge and whip out your new penis for inspection? I'd really like to know.
I mean how WEIRD. They seemed a little off. He ?she seemed like a kept woman! And of course he/she is a woman having a baby, thank god she kept the good parts!
I totally agree and my girl Oprah got low low low when she did all those promos for the show.
She should have said "Woman, now living as a man, who took a bunch of testosterone and now has some facial hair and a really big clitoris she uses to have sex with her lesbian lover got inseminated and will have baby soon"
That said more power to that couple. They seem like they are in love, happy and she has to girls from a previous marriage who seem really well adjusted and have really great hair.
It just seems sad that they wanted to be in control of their story and Oprah got all "People Magazine" on their ass.
I so so so agree with you! Bugs the crap out of me, totally a women! We get pregnant all the time! It's no big deal!
Jen
I didn't see it...but I was wondering....when did Oprah's show turn into the Jerry Springer show?? Sounds like a weird idea for a guest, if you ask me.
I maybe watch Oprah once a year. I totally agree. It is a woman. period. the media needs to get over it. I feel sorry for the unborn child.
That is so bizarre! I believe he is a SHE! THE END-...I could not even watch it on Oprah. F*up!
I saw it...too weird. How can you be a man if you have a vagina? I thought they said he/she had a penis. I'm so damn confused. This just isn't right.
A friend of mine and I were talking about this today. If they were lesbians to start out with, why would one of them want to become a man? If you're a lesbian wouldn't you want to be with another woman, not a man? Why couldn't the one left as the woman carry the baby? Seems to me that this is a publicity stunt.
ITA - they're trying to make this sound like it's a revolutionary scientific advance that's going to allow all men to start carrying children. Sorry, only the "men" with vaginas and uteruses (uteri?) are able to get pregnant and carry a child. This is one of the dumber "news" stories I've heard in a looooong time.
-The Renee
Sorry. But, I didn't care when I saw the blurb commercial about it and I don't now.
However, I must point out that you said vagina! I know it's immature of me, but I've taken my meds and I was amused by that.
Polly wolly is much more appropriate.
First, I agree on Oprah seeming to make this a pretty sensational show. I didn't see it because I haven;t been able to stomach the Oprah show for a couple of years now.
Now, Tara et al. who are unable to understand why a 'lesbian' would want to become a man. It isn't about who these people want to have sex with...it is about who they feel that they ARE. Transgendered people feel that their physical sexual development does not match with the person they really feel that they are. I am have had long and honest conversations with a number of gay and lesbian friends about their gender identity. Most are thrilled to be male or female and love their girl or boy bits. But, I have a lesbian friend who claims that for as long as she can remember she has felt that she is a boy...as a child she dressed as a boy, she was distressed not to have a penis, distressed at her development of breasts...she has honestly thought for her entire life that somehow before her birth that her sex organs got screwed up. Nature screws us up all the time! Some of us have malformed hearts, kidneys, brains, feet. Why is it so difficult for so many people to accept that maybe, possibly our gender could be missassigned before our birth? These people are not freaks looking for publicity, they are people who love each other for who they are at their very being...and are brave and wise enough to say it, out loud. It is a beautiful testament to love and courage that they are willing to have a family and hopefully create a dialog and understanding that will allow others to find the courage to embrace who they are. Kudos to them.
I agree with almost everything you wrote Ms. Sensible, except it doesn't seem to relate to this particular case.
He said that he hadn't felt like that his whole life, he began to feel like a man in his 20s and he was formerly involved in a Lesbian relationship with his now-wife.
I'm not at all questioning someone's decision to change genders, I absolutely believe some people are born in the wrong bodies.
What's being questioned is that it is interesting that her partner, who is a Lesbian and always has been, now wants to live with a man and that they choose to advertise this pregnancy (and I call it advertising because I *promise* you there will be profit, if there hasn't been already) as something completely miraculous...when really it's someone who has female reproductive organs and is able to bear children who chooses to take the hormones of, dress and act like a man.
There's just nothing this miraculous about a woman having a baby, even if it's a transgender person who is only technically female.
I wish them nothing but happiness, I just want them off the news.
Me loves Ashley!
Me no loves the idea that people should accept that they ought to act like a girl and shut up because they were born with a vagina.
Me loves Ashley's opinion on Oprah and circuses and such.
Me no love the Taras and felt an irresistible urge to give her a sermon on tolerance and acceptance. Not that the Taras aren't lovely people, perhaps she just hasn't had the opportunity to discuss this with a real live lovely trans gendered friend.
To clarify once again. Me loves Ashley and me loves my soapbox.
Me might even love the Taras if I met them and I bet the Taras would love my friend too!
Me no love media. Media sucks and it is so nice to be able to say so...
Joined this conversation late in the game, but I am with you all the way on this one, girl! You got the parts to have a baby, you are a chick. period. Doesn't matter if you can grow a beard. Heck, at times, I can grow a beard (sparse, but there are hairs there). I do not think that makes me a man.
sorry, but if i decided i was a cat, the medical community would send me for psychiatric evaluation and help, not give me whiskers and a tail. but i can decide i am a man and they'll offer me a dick? yeah, that's fucked up.
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